Schurtz & Ties Presents: Behavioral Leadership with Tony DeRose | Guest Appearance on Collab Lab Live
What happens when behavioral leadership is not treated as a program, but as part of a school’s culture?
In this special Schurtz & Ties Presents conversation, Kasey Schurtz joins Tony DeRose on Collab Lab Live for a deep discussion about what behavioral leadership looks like inside a junior high school, why secondary educators sometimes hesitate to embrace it, and why simple practices like noticing often do the heaviest instructional lifting.
Built around ideas from Ervin Educational Consulting, this conversation also points listeners toward the broader work behind Behavioral Leadership.
https://www.behavioralleadership.com/
Kasey shares his journey from teaching in Ohio, serving in a bilingual school in Chile, working in an alternative school in Wyoming, and now leading instructional work in a junior high where teachers are turning behavioral leadership into shared staff practice.
The conversation explores how noticing creates clarity, how clear expectations protect relationships, and why the best classrooms often look like students taking ownership while teachers are free to teach.
Also in this episode:
Why substitute teachers need behavioral leadership language too
How schools can build culture through simple shared practices
Why secondary teachers often resist behavior systems and why they may already need exactly this work
How clarity and relationship-building happen through noticing
Why teaching behavior protects teachers from becoming therapists, enforcers, and constant correctors
How strong classroom culture gives students ownership of space, routines, and expectations
A strong discussion for anyone thinking about behavior, instruction, culture, and what it means to let teachers teach.
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