Episode 68: Macoupin CEO Program | The Power of Mentors and Coaches with Tommy Campbell
Welcome to Lead with Hope!
In this episode of Lead with Hope, Dr. Brandi Kelly sits down with Tommy Campbell, 2025 Macoupin CEO Alum, to explore how mentors and coaches shape young leaders. Tommy shares what he learned from football, youth group, and his early work experiences—and why showing up, listening, and staying coachable can change everything.
If you’d like to connect with Tommy, you can reach him at 217-556-9181.
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As a two-time Principal of the Year with over 20 years of experience, Dr. Brandi Kelly offers The Hope-Fueled Leadership Kickstart—a short, powerful private coaching experience designed to help leaders clarify their vision, make confident decisions, and create strong, connected teams. If this is speaking to you, let’s connect at sparkhopeedu.com.
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Welcome to Lead with Hope, the
podcast where we explore the
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power of hope, leadership, and
resilience in today's world.
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I'm Brandy Kelly, and each week
I'll bring you stories,
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insights, and actionable advice
from leaders and change makers
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who are using hope as their
compass to navigate challenges
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and inspire others to create
positive impact.
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Whether you're a seasoned leader
or just beginning your journey,
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this podcast is here to remind
you that no matter the
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obstacles, hope is the fuel that
can drive transformation.
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So let's dive in and discover
how you can lead with hope.
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You will not want to miss this
amazing episode with Tommy
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Campbell.
Tommy is a 2025 CEO alum and he
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shares stories from ACEO
experience, his experiences in
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football, youth group, and his
work life.
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This episode is packed with
lessons on leadership,
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resilience, and showing up.
This is one you're going to want
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to hear from start to finish, so
let's get started.
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Why don't you tell me a little
bit about your background and
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about T&D's entertainment?
Yeah, Thanks for having me
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today, Brandy.
I really appreciate it.
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It's an honor to be on here.
I guess to start with a little
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bit about myself, I my name is
Tommy Campbell.
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Obviously, I graduated from
Staunton High School in 2025.
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So I guess you would say last
school year.
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I lived in Staunton my entire
life.
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I've I'm still living at home,
but I've grown up this spot in
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the middle of nowhere where we
kind of got to do everything
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ourself.
Like we got a well that we have
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to haul water and stuff for.
So I've been accustomed to work
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my whole life.
And I mean, there's not much
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more background.
I've just always been willing to
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try new stuff and be willing to
do stuff that makes me get on my
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comfort, comfort zone.
The kind of quote Scott Reichman
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from last year, one of my
favorite quotes that he said was
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don't be afraid to suck at
something new.
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I can say that I'm not afraid to
suck at anything new.
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I love that quote.
Don't be.
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Afraid I do too.
To suck at something new.
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I'm writing that down, Tommy.
That was my senior quote last
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year.
That's great.
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Now what, what is TN DS
Entertainment?
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You mentioned that in our
correspondence and I'm just
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curious if you could share a
little bit about that.
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But just a little bit about TN
DS.
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So TN DS was a child of the
badge, the badge business
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program for CEO.
So that was the first thing we
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did and what we did for our way
of doing badge business was we
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did a little advertisement plan.
We did three plans.
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We had tier one was 25 bucks.
We just do a collage post of
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everyone that's around.
So like just shout out, thank
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you for everyone who supports
the CEO program.
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Second one was $50 and that was
just a little bio personal post
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and then 100 and then $100 was
the real money maker, which was
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videos.
And we kind of preface me and we
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just we got to the videos.
I'd be going with the got done
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with the class business because
the class business took a lot of
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her time up after we got done
initially getting the money for
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the badge business.
After the badge or after the
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class business, we were all kind
of stressed out and ready to
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just kind of unwind.
So me and Dylan we our first
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video that we did, I guess you'd
say for like pre op T and DS and
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then doing it for CEO.
We went to Bill's IGA and
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Staunton.
We both kind of looked sure like
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let's have some fun with this.
So if you, I mean if you go look
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at the CEO Facebook page or
anything, they got the our
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videos on there and rest of the
CEO students, but you'll kind of
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see the beginnings of TNDS
there.
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OK, So what do you do with TNDS?
Well, we advertise local
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businesses around the Coopin and
we're trying to kind of expand
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out right now, OK.
And then then the, what really
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became T and DS was we were
sitting at Hawthorne one morning
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talking with Carrie and all of
them and a couple and Carrie and
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then Macy Wright and a few
others suggested, hey, you guys
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really were good at doing those
videos.
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You should really start the
business.
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I kind of look at Don and go.
So we went to his house, played
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darts, wrote up a business plan.
A couple days later we presented
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it.
We got polos and whatnot.
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And then T and DS was born.
That's not, that's amazing.
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I love that story, Tommy.
It was born right there at
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Hawthorne's coffee shop in
Carlinville.
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There's a plug right there for
Hawthorne's to sponsor the Lead
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with Hope podcast.
I would.
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Completely agree with that
Brandy.
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So Tommy, what's something
special about you or something
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that brings you joy?
You know, coffee brings me joy,
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that's for sure.
What brings you joy?
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Well, I have to say the biggest
thing, which could be
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stereotypical, but being able to
go out and spread Jesus word.
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Being a Christian is a big part
of who I am and I am not afraid
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to admit that.
You can quote me like I said.
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Well, like I was saying, Jesus
is a humongous part of my life.
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He, I mean, for one, he was
there when I first started.
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He's always been, he's kind of
just been the well for me, it's
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been the background.
But now that I've gotten older
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and realized how much of an
impact he has, it's become my
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passion and my love to be able
to go out and lead and proclaim
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Christ's name.
I'm not afraid.
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I try to do it in every little
way.
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I'm not afraid the criticisms
about it.
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So that's what I find my most
joy is.
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Being able to praise His name
and being able to help people is
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the biggest thing for me.
That's beautiful, Tommy, and
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that gives me a lot of of
encouragement.
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You're a young man just starting
out in the world, just a recent
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graduate from high school, and
you're shining Jesus love into
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the world very brightly.
So that gives me a lot of hope
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and encouragement.
What experiences or lessons have
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had the biggest impact on your
life or your leadership?
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That's a really good question.
I got.
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I got a few good ones.
We'll start with when it comes
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to my faith, that had the
biggest impact for me starting
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out on the path in 2022.
Well, the kind of more like in
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2021, my church, I go to Zion
Staunton in Zion Lutheran
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Staunton in Staunton.
We haven't had a youth group
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there for a long time, but a guy
by the name of Christy Cook,
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which huge shout out to Christy
because without her, like her
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guidance and whatnot would not
be who I am today.
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She helped me really like kind
of breakdown and hone my my
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faith and be able to use it as a
positive light.
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But.
The people in your life, the
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people in your life, that's what
makes all the difference and
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it's so encouraging whenever you
can connect with somebody in a
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youth group and they can have
that big influence on you.
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Right now I'm reading a book,
Tommy, it's called Lead Like
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Jesus.
I highly recommend it.
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Highly recommend.
It talks about our heart, our
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head, our hands, and our habits
and how we can put the mission
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to love God, love people, serve
all into action, and use Jesus
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as the role model for our life
and our leadership.
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And it sounds like that's what
Christy did in your life, too.
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Yeah, not just Christy, but I I
would not be who I am without my
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mom and dad pushing me.
And always with mom and dad, I I
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would not be real.
I mean, for one, I wouldn't be
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around without them, but I
wouldn't be able to have the
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mindset that I do without their
guidance and then willing to
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like wanting to push me instead
of just kind of shelter me.
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They are always like, go try it,
let's see what happens.
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I'm so thankful for that.
Yeah, and God knows it.
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It's such a perfect plan.
He knows the parents that we
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need and he gives us the perfect
parents that we need.
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And I will tell you, Tommy, my,
my father passed away in
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September and he had fought a
long courageous battle with
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Parkinson's.
But knowing that he's in heaven
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now with my mother, it gives me
so much peace.
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And just reflecting back on his
life and his legacy, I'm just so
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grateful that God gave me the
parents that he gave me.
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And I'm sure your parents are
butt and bust and proud of their
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son.
They are, and I don't really
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like bragging about myself with
that kind of stuff, 'cause I,
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I'm ultimately, it's not my
doing, it's God's doing.
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I'm just a vessel.
That's, that's the way I look at
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it.
That's why I try not to be Mr.
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Barrel Chest and showing off
everything.
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Yeah.
But.
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And also I'm sorry for your loss
as well.
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Thank you.
Harmi, thank you.
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But like I said, there's hope
there.
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There's hope because there's
heaven, and I will see him again
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one day.
When you were working in the CEO
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program, you guys did a badge
business.
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You did a lot of business
visits, things like that.
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What stands out to you about
your experiences in the CEO
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program?
That's a really good question
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and I, I, I hope this is a good
answer.
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But for me, the biggest thing
that I took from CEO was when we
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got the mentors, I had Ken
Doyle, which another humongous
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shout out to Ken.
He really helped me understand
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how to be business minded, how
to think, like think how to use
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your money.
And the biggest thing is he
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helped me realize how big
connections are.
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That's the biggest thing I
pulled from CEO is having
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connections in networking is key
in life, period.
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Yeah. 100% agree with you there,
Tommy.
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Now, we all have defining
moments in our life too.
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And you've talked about some
really big ones.
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You know, you've talked a lot, a
lot about faith in your youth
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group, your mom and your dad,
your mentors.
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But adversity strikes us all.
We all deal with hard spots.
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And if you haven't yet, hold on
because it's coming.
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It's not if, it's when, Oh yeah.
Are there any challenges that
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you have maybe overcome and you
can give the listeners some tips
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or some strategies regarding how
you overcame that challenge?
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I do have one and it's one that,
I mean, if I was going to kind
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of either talk about it later or
talk about after I talked about
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the youth gathering, but we'll
get to that anyway in 2020.
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I mean, it was a bad year for
everyone, but for us, that was
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when my mother was diagnosed for
cervical cancer.
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And along with that, while she
was like, like she's cancer free
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now, got it cut out, She's all
good.
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But that same year, my father
also shattered his leg and both
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my parents were down.
I was the only one able to
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operate this entire little, I'll
call it little homestead or what
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what it's a we're, we live in
our, in the country.
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We have, like I said, we got
water, we got a hall, we got a
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furnace that I have to cut wood
for, which is why I also start a
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firewood business that I have to
cut wood for, to have heat for
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everything.
And we got bunch like how many 7
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animals or so that we have to
take care of.
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So when that happened, I was
left, I was left this humongous
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platter of stuff I had to do.
And the biggest, the biggest
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moment that kind of helped me
don't go to who I am was one day
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I was out cutting wood and
there's a log that was frozen to
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the ground 'cause it like
freshly iced over.
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So it was a big old sheath.
It was not working.
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And I just, I just lost it right
then and there.
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And right then that's when I
really felt God was like, hey,
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you'll get through this.
And well, he did.
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I instead of like being what was
me, I looked, OK, how can I
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better myself?
That's where I, what I really
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learned from that was and that's
the lens I look at any challenge
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like anyone that I go through
now is how can I be better from
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this?
God's here with me, but how can
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I grow stronger and better from
this instead of laying down and
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accepting defeat?
Because that's not how I
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operate.
Yeah, and that's a beautiful
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reframe, Tommy, because how old
were you when that all happened
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in 2020?
It was 13 going on 14.
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Yeah, You were young and you
were handling a man's load of
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responsibility at that young
age.
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And to be able to reframe those
challenges into opportunities to
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grow.
There's a lot of adults in their
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30s, forties, 50s, man, even
probably 60s that they can't
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reframe it like that.
They can't see the potential in
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that growth, and I see that that
adversity LED you to be the
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young man that you are today.
With how many businesses?
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2 currently.
Two businesses.
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That's awesome, Tommy, that is
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So are there any passion
projects or anything that you
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are working on that you want to
talk about?
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There is right now what right
now, like I'm actually after
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this, I got to go get a load
ready Big T's firewood.
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I started it back in 2020, 23,
two years ago now.
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And there was a good friend of
ours that we've known for years.
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He helped me because that's when
I turned 16, got my license,
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started selling firewood because
I know how to do it.
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It's pretty fun to do.
Last year I was kind of like
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dwindling because I was like,
oh, I have football going on.
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I got all this going on and I
was like, yeah.
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But now that I'm kind of free to
do whatever I want, I'm trying
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to get another truck.
Maybe start blow.
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Like not blowing money but
getting more stuff ready to go.
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Like being a little more
streamlined and maybe get to a
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point where this side hobby
makes me quite a bit of money.
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Yeah, that's awesome.
And then another one is so I
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mentioned youth groups.
So I did it for three years.
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I'll just kind of preference.
Like what really started me on
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the journey is I went to
Houston, TX in 2022 and it was
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called, it's called the National
Youth Gathering.
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It's a week long like convention
with like 20,000 other kids and
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adults my about my age or older
that all gather there that
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praise Jesus.
Like when we were there, we were
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at the Astro Stadium.
We got the whole stadium filled
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up.
And that's what like if you ever
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heard the term mountaintop
experience, that's what was for
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me, really helped me go to the
trajection I am today because
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it's like, Oh well, he's here.
Let's do let's do something
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about it.
Let's not sit down and helped me
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drive to become a big leader in
youth group and tried my best at
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which that has led me today
where our youth director Christy
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stepped down.
She got a new opportunity in
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Collinsville which grateful that
she got the new opportunity to
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go spread her life somewhere
else.
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I have I'm trying to take I'm in
the process of taking up the
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mental the new youth leader
right now, that's a.
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Passion project.
Thank you.
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That's awesome.
And then I think two more and
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we'll move on is so I went to a
thing called youth lead for the
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last three years.
It's like a little, it's a
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leadership program that is a
weekend long program where you
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get into small groups, talk
about how you can be a leader in
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price and just so much more.
It I'm just scratching the
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surface of it because I don't
want to get too much detail, but
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it's it's great.
It could make a lot of a lot of
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connections, a lot of
networking.
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I've met a lot of people that
I've still in quite contact with
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from around the country from
there.
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That's awesome, and I love that
you started growing yourself in
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the CEO program, but you haven't
stopped there.
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You graduated and now you are
seeking out other ways to grow,
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not just as a leader, but as a
human being in your faith.
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And Tommy, throughout this
entire interview, I have heard
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you say that your values are at
least in part faith, family, and
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that work ethic and it shows.
And when you lead in your
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values, I believe you can
accomplish anything you set your
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mind to with God's help.
I completely agree, but last
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year what so they have So the
way youthly works is every three
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years this big gathering occurs.
Like this year we went down to
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New Orleans.
Great trip, great food.
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I recommend going.
Maybe don't go to Bourbon Street
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if you're too young.
We bit crazy, but went down
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there.
There was kind of like a send
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off with all the old, like not
old, but like the old.
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The people that I went to youth
group with kind of just
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graduating this kind of little
send off and the passing of the
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torch for me because I'm trying
to take up youth group.
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But I got elected to Youth
League because it every there's
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a team every year that has a
three-year term and I got
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elected to it.
I'm representing the central
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region of the United States
right now and starting to
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prepare for the in March is when
Youth League starts, something
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very passionate about.
And then another thing is I'm
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very passionate about.
I'll go into football, all of
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it.
So you understand why I'm why I
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am.
I'm coaching now.
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I started playing football for
Staunton in 3rd grade and I
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ended last year.
So I played for about 10 years
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and I wouldn't change a thing of
it because football really
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taught me OK, how to pick
yourself up, dust yourself on
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and get back to it.
And then something I tell my 5th
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graders would like told my 5th
graders and going to be 6th
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graders, I tell them next play,
move on.
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Don't worry about what happened
last time, move on.
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Yeah, let it.
Go and then, especially in high
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school, I have nothing I like.
I'm going to plug another
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mentor, coach Austin Shirfey.
Without him, I would not be so
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headstrong and be willing to
step up and leave because he
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gave me that opportunity.
He let me, well, he helped me
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realize that I can be.
I can be myself and it'll work.
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I was elected team captain for
two years in a row, which was
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awesome, and without Shirpy's
help, I would not be who I am
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today.
I, I really wouldn't without
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football, without Shirpy,
without Jesus, without Christ,
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without my parents, I would not
be who I am today.
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So if you shout out to all of
them, I'm extremely thankful for
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all what they've done for me.
And in the Bible, in Jeremiah
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2911, it's one of my favorite
verses, it says that he has a
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plan for our life, a plan to
prosper us, not to harm us, to
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give us hope in a future.
And your life shows that, Tommy,
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it really does.
So I'm wondering what's giving
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you hope in our world right now?
Little things, honestly, Brandy,
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just seeing right now that my
little cousin who I asked if she
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want to come to a youth group of
her starting to love it.
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Just just just one.
Just seeing one kid, seeing one
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person that I'm affecting with
how I'm doing things gives me
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hope.
And then one of my my favorite,
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it's a basic verse, but it's a
good, it's a basic verse for a
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reason.
Philippians 413.
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I can do all things through
Christ who strengthens me.
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It's my favorite, one of my
favorite verses of all time
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because for me it really
summarizes, you know, what God
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does.
Tommy, this conversation was, I
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knew it was going to be good,
but it is an unexpected blessing
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to me today because I had no
idea of your faith.
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I didn't know about this part of
you.
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I knew that when you were in the
CEO program, you had a really
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fun story that I'm hoping that
you will end on today and share
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with the listeners because you
have a lot of charisma, you have
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a lot of personality, and you
bring humor into into the
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situation, which I think we need
more of right now in our world.
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So can you think of your most
funny?
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Story from the CEO program and
we'll end on that story.
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Oh, all right then I'll talk
about class business, which goes
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back into how T&D started, why
me and Dylan are so goofy when
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our videos.
But the day of like we tried
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having it.
So what it was is like we tried
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having a 5K and a fall festival
in the same day.
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Weather was not on our side.
We only had like 6 runners and
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you know, things were not
looking too good.
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We had about 180 dozen Krispy
Kreme doughnuts to do so before
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and we were going to do like a
hot dogging, hot dogging
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competition, which is why I had
a hot dog costume.
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And then we had we were like
advertising the pet park because
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it was like a pet festival.
So I got a hold of our school's
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bulldog mascot costume so we
could advertise that no one was
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showing up.
And then me and Dylan were like
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kind of looking at each other
because him and I are both like,
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OK, let's do something right now
instead of like kind of wait and
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be logical with.
We like to attack, not really
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defend or anything like that.
So we walk out there.
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Well, first he's like, Tommy,
put on the hot dog costume, give
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me the bulldog costume.
Like, OK, what are we going to
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do, head out there?
We start dancing like strippers
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the whole time.
We sold 180 dozen dozen Donuts
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within like an hour or two from
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Just being so stupid.
That's great.
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That is great.
And I will tell you, I had Macy
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on the she shares a little bit
about this story whenever I talk
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to her as well.
So it is one for the history
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books for sure.
So thanks for sharing.
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Yeah.
So as listeners are listening to
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us talk and you Share your
story, share about the CEO
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program, if somebody wants to
get into touch with you, would
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you be open to that?
And if so, how can they connect
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with you?
I would be more than willing to
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help like if someone wants to
talk to me please do and I'll
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just give just phone numbers.
Normally how I do it just text
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or call me.
Normally text if you call me,
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we'll see if I answer.
I normally do because I it's
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normally customers that call me
but my number is 217 556-9181.
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OK, Tommy, and I'll add Tommy's
number in the show notes.
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If you want to get in touch with
Tommy to talk about CEO program,
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TS Firewood or T and DS
Entertainment, call Tommy.
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You won't regret it.
Tommy, thanks for being on the
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show.
Thanks.
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For having me Brandy all.
Right, thank you so much for
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tuning into today's episode of
Lead with Hope, where we believe
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that leadership rooted in
habits, optimistic mindset,
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purpose, and excellence can
truly change the world.
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I'd love to ask you for a small
favor that makes a big impact.
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Help me spread hope.
Share this episode with a friend
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or a colleague who could use a
little encouragement today.
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And if this conversation
inspired you, please take a
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moment to head over and give the
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It helps others find us and
keeps the message of hope
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growing strong.
I'm also excited to share
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your mindset, and reignite your
purpose so you can lead with
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hope again.
To learn more about the
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Until next time, remember the
world needs your leadership and
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change starts with you.
Fuel your life with hope,
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embrace your purpose, and shine
your light for others.