Episode 77 | Burned Out as a Leader? I Didn’t Lose My Leadership in 2025 — I Found It
In this episode of the Lead with Hope podcast, Dr. Brandi Kelly discusses the challenges of leadership, particularly in the context of burnout and emotional exhaustion. She shares her personal journey of feeling depleted while leading a school district and emphasizes the importance of self-efficacy, alignment with personal values, and the role of community in leadership.
The conversation highlights key lessons learned from 2025, including the significance of recognizing burnout as a signal for recalibration and the need for leaders to create space for reflection and rest. Brandi encourages listeners to redefine their understanding of leadership and to embrace their unique journeys with hope and purpose.
Takeaways
- Leadership is demanding, especially when you care deeply.
- 70% of leaders report feeling burnout.
- Burnout is a signal, not a failure.
- Leadership begins with self-efficacy.
- You can be both successful and struggling.
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Welcome to the Lead with Hope
podcast, where leadership goes
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beyond titles and into
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This is a podcast about habits,
optimistic outlook, purpose, and
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excellence, and how these
pillars shape resilient leaders,
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healthy systems, and meaningful
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I'm Brandy Kelly, and each week
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strategies, and insights
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Did you know this?
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Nearly 70% of leaders report
feeling burnt out.
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Over half of educators and
executive leaders considered
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leading their roles in the past
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And the number one reason that
they cited is emotional
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exhaustion.
On paper, a person's leadership
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can look fine.
You can even look successful.
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But behind the scenes, many,
many leaders are quietly
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unraveling.
As I talk to leaders in my work
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as a coach across the country, I
hear this more and more.
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If this resonates with you,
friend, you're in the right
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place.
Welcome to the Lead with Hope
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podcast.
I'm your host Brandy Kelly, and
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today's episode is titled I
didn't lose my leadership in
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2025.
I found it at the beginning of
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20251 year ago.
I was the Superintendent of a
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small rural school district.
I was leading complex systems,
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making high stakes decisions and
caring responsibility that
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stretched far beyond my own life
and my own well-being.
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On the outside I looked
successful.
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I was capable and confident.
But on the inside, I was
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exhausted.
I was stressed.
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I was dealing with health
problems that I didn't talk
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about.
I was more than tired.
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I was deeply depleted.
And maybe you're feeling that
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way too, Showing up every day
for everybody else, carrying all
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the expectations and holding the
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families and futures.
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A big thank you to Craig
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into meaningful, lasting impact.
Here's the truth that I had to
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come face to face with in 2025.
I didn't lose my leadership.
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I lost my alignment.
I knew what I valued in life,
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but I had lost my alignment with
those values.
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I had lost margins.
It was all about work.
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I wasn't connecting with first
and foremost God on a regular
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basis the way that I knew that I
should.
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I wasn't spending the kind of
quality time with my family and
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friends so that I could refuel
myself.
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And I lost my permission to be
human.
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I carried everybody's problems,
and the more problems that I
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carried, the more I isolated to
protect myself.
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But leadership, that leadership
was never gone.
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Because leadership is not a
title, it's not a role, and it's
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certainly not performance.
Leadership is who you are when
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no one is applauding.
It's how you respond when the
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pressure rises, and it's what
you protect when everything
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feels urgent. 2025 stripped away
a lot of things for me, but it
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also revealed some very powerful
truths.
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Here's what it taught me.
First and foremost, leadership
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begins with self efficacy.
If you don't believe you matter,
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your leadership will always feel
fragile.
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Leadership starts on the inside.
Next is that burnout is not a
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leadership failure.
It's a signal.
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It's like that red flag or the
check engine light on your car.
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It's a call to recalibrate, to
realign, and to step into your
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greatness.
And then it also taught me the
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strong leaders build systems and
build space.
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Space to reflect, space to rest,
and space to reconnect with your
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purpose.
And here's what I want you to
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hear today, friends.
You can be both successful and
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struggling at the same time.
And acknowledging that doesn't
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disqualify you.
Acknowledging that does not
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disqualify you.
It deepens your impact.
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This season reinforced why I
believe so deeply in the system
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of hope.
Each is for habits that support
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your well-being, not just your
productivity.
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O is for optimistic outlook
grounded in truth, not toxic
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positivity.
P is for purpose, purpose that
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goes deeper than performance
metrics, and E is for excellence
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that is rooted in integrity.
Hope doesn't mean pretending
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that things are easy.
It means that you choose to lead
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anyway, with clarity, with
courage, and with compassion,
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because that's what people want
from their leaders.
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I learned a lot of valuable
lessons in 2025, but here are
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three that I want to share with
you today.
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Burnout is a message.
It's your body's way of letting
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you know you need to slow down,
rest, and refuel yourself.
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As I said before, I was leading
a small rural school district
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one year ago today, and that
message that my body was giving
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me was through not being able to
sleep.
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At one point, I wasn't able to
eat.
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I was dealing with health
issues.
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There was so many health issues.
My body was telling me to slow
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down and to take care of myself.
And I want you to listen to your
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body because we only have one
chance to get this right.
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The second lesson I want to
share with you is that alignment
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matters more than achievement.
I have always been a striver.
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I would accomplish one goal and
then I would move the goal post.
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I wouldn't celebrate that goal
and the goal post would be
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moved.
And so I would be striving for
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the next thing and the next
thing and the next thing.
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But what I've learned in the
season is that if you align your
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life and your leadership with
the values and the legacy that
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you want to leave, everything
just feels different.
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It feels better.
And then third, leaders grow in
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community, and community fosters
growth.
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Sometimes when you're stressed
and you're burnt out, you're
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overwhelmed, you isolate
yourself, you try to protect
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yourself.
Maybe there are other factors
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that come into play, like
betrayal or criticism, keyboard
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warriors, the list can go on and
on.
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But it's so important to
surround yourself with a group
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of people who will tell you the
truth and also give you grace,
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lifting you up, encouraging you,
helping you be the best version
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of who God intended you to be.
Let me say this clearly.
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If 2025 made you question
yourself, if you felt tired but
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still showed up, if you wondered
whether you could keep going,
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you didn't lose your leadership
either.
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You're in the process of finding
it again, more grounded or
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honest and more whole this time.
And sometimes the most powerful
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reset isn't stepping away from
leadership.
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It's just simply redefining what
leadership means for you.
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As we close today, I want you to
reflect on one question.
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What did leadership reveal about
you this year?
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Not what did it take from you,
but rather what did it reveal
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about you this year?
And if this episode resonated
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with you, I'd love for you to
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this episode with a leader who
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review so more leaders can find
this space of hope.
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And remember, you're not behind,
you're not broken, and you're
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certainly not alone.
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your light for others.
Until next time, keep leading
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with hope.
If you're a leader feeling
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overwhelmed by everything on
your plate, you're not alone and
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nothing is wrong with you.
Leadership is demanding,
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especially when you care deeply
and you carry responsibility for
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others.
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matters most.
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reconnect with your purpose and
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You'll also find some resources,
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some upcoming events, and
leadership tools to support you
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along the way.
Most importantly, I'm grateful
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for you, for the courage you
show, the heart you lead with,
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and the hope you choose.
Even on the hardest days, know
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that I'm cheering for you every
step of the way.
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Until next time, keep leading
with hope.