Demystifying Imposter Syndrome and Ways to Overcome it

In episode 162 of the Leader of Learning Podcast, host Dr. Dan Kreiness opens up about his personal experience with impostor syndrome, which led him to examine the impact of this phenomenon on educators and content creators. He shares insights into...
In episode 162 of the Leader of Learning Podcast, host Dr. Dan Kreiness opens up about his personal experience with impostor syndrome, which led him to examine the impact of this phenomenon on educators and content creators. He shares insights into understanding impostor syndrome, recognizing its various types, and provides strategies for overcoming it. In this episode, we will delve into the different facets of impostor syndrome, its effects, and practical methods for combating it.
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I am so excited to be back. Thanks for joining me. In this
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episode, we're gonna dive into why
I took such a long break in between
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episodes, and we're gonna dive deeper
into imposter syndrome, what it is,
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how it affects people, some types
of it, and of course, ways
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to go about getting rid of it
once you have it. Here we go.
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Welcome to the Leader of Learning podcast. I'm your host, doctor Dan
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Krenis, and this is where I
help educators grow their impact as instructional leaders
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led me to understand that someone like you,
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Now let's get started. Welcome back,
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Leader of Learning. First, and
foremost, welcome to this episode.
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More importantly, though, welcome back
to the show. Admittedly, I have
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taken months away from this podcast and
really gone on a hiatus away from creating
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content and putting out episodes like I
have in the past. I won't go
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into too much detail here about why, but I did cover that in my
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latest newsletter. If you're not already
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Although there were a lot of factors
in why I haven't created content or published
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a podcast episode in a while,
one of the reasons was at least the
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fact that I'm gonna admit and be
a little vulnerable here. I think I
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was suffering from some imposter syndrome.
I don't know about you, but imposter
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syndrome is something that I have thought
about a lot as a content creator and
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even as an educator, because I
do think it's something that I face fairly
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often and something that I think I've
really had to come to terms with,
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especially as it relates to how to
deal with it, how to cope with
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it, and ultimately how to try
and overcome it. In this episode,
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what I want to do is kind
of reair some content that I created around
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imposter syndrome. I'm actually going to
play the audio of two YouTube videos that
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I created. The first one is
around what imposter syndrome is and how to
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recognize it, where I go through
actually some different types of imposter syndrome.
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Next, i'll play for you the
audio from a second or a part two
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of my mini series on imposter syndrome, and in that we'll discuss the ways
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in which you can help overcome imposter
syndrome when you get it and when you
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recognize it in yourself. So first
we'll start with that audio from the video
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on what is imposter syndrome and what
are the types of it so we can
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recognize it within ourselves. Give it
a listen. Here In this video,
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I'd like to go through what imposter
syndrome is and the five different types of
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it, so you can recognize imposter
syndrome when you see it or you sense
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it, and you might be able
to identify yourself with any one of these
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five impostor syndrome types. We'll start
with type number one. The first type
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of imposter syndrome is known as the
perfectionist. Perfectionists set excessively high goals for
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themselves and when they fail to reach
a goal, they experience major self doubt
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and worry that they're not going to
be able to measure up, whether they
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realize it or not. This group
also tends to be control freaks, feeling
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like if they want something done right, they have to do it for themselves.
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Imposter syndrome type number two is superman
or superwoman. People who experience this
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type of imposter syndrome are convinced their
phonies amongst real deal colleagues or acquaintances.
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They often push themselves to work harder
and harder to measure up, but this
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is just a false cover up for
their insecurities, and the work overload may
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not only harm their own mental health, but also their relationship with others.
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The third type of impostor syndrome is
also known as the natural genius. People
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with this type believe they need to
be a natural genius. They judge their
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competence based on ease and speed as
opposed to effort. In other words,
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if they take a long time to
master something, they feel shame. They
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don't just judge themselves based on ridiculous
expectations, but they also judge themselves based
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on getting things right on the first
try. When they're not able to do
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something quickly or fluently, they feel
like a failure. The fourth type of
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imposter syndrome is known as the soloist. This type of imposter syndrome features people
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who feel as though asking for help
reveals their phoniness. It's okay to be
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independent, but not to the point
at which you refuse assistance so that you
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can prove your worth. And the
fifth type of imposter syndrome is known as
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the expert. Experts measure their competence
based on what and how much they know
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or can do. They believe that
they will never know enough, and so
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they fear being exposed as inexperienced or
unknowledgeable. So those are the five types
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of imposter syndrome. And I'm guessing
that if you're watching this video right now
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and looking for more information about imposter
syndrome and these types of imposter syndrome,
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you've probably faced it or you're facing
it right now, and just like me,
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it's something that you really need to
know how to deal with. This
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let's get back to the episode. I
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hope you enjoyed that and you took
something away from that audio that really explained
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what imposter syndrome is and some of
the types of imposter syndrome, so that
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when you face it, you can
understand it better and recognize it better in
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yourself and identify how it's really coming
about in you and how it's affecting you.
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This last section of this podcast episode
deals with what to do when you
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are facing imposter syndrome. So now
I'd like to take you through some ways
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to actually combat or get rid of
imposter syndrome when you get it. Give
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it a listen who gets imposter syndrome? Who faces it? Well, it
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can really be experienced and faced by
anyone, but I think it's especially prevalent
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in people like me who are content
creators or authors or speaks, people who
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are actually giving of themselves in a
way that others can consume. It might
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even creep in into your professional lives
if you're someone who is in charge of
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people tasked with creating things for others, or presenting to others, or really
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any type of role in which you're
working with others. It's a little bit
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of a dangerous syndrome or experience because
it really creates a lot of self doubt
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and it really affects your mental health. So I think these five tips or
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tricks could go a long way in
helping someone's mental health and of course helping
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them overcome their impostor syndrome. The
first tip I would give someone when trying
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to overcome their impostor syndrome is to
find their why. Yes, it sounds
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a little cliche or corny, but
I go back to what Simon Sinic said
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about starting with your why or finding
your why. If you've never seen Simon
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sinics Ted talk or read his book, start with why. Let me just
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explain it very quickly. Basically,
Simon Sinic says that in the golden circle,
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what you want to do, especially
again if you're someone who's creating content,
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or really in any field in which
someone is working, is to understand
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why they do it. And I
think that'll go a long way in helping
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you conquer your imposter syndrome. So, really finding your why means what is
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your purpose for doing what you do. I started off this video by telling
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you what my why is. I
told you that on the Leader of Learning
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podcast and on this channel. My
why is to inspire growth and transformation in
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education and beyond. And when I
go back to that why, then it
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helps me under why I put out
the content I put out, which also
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helps me not worry about the content
that others are putting out, because frankly,
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I'm not the only one out there
who's looking to inspire growth and transformation
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and education. There are other people
and people who do it just as well,
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if not better than I do,
and have more followers and viewers and
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subscribers than I do. But I
still continue to do it because that's what
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I'm passionate about and that's what fits
with my why. So the second piece
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of advice I want to give you
to help you overcome your imposter syndrome kind
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of goes back to and relates to
the first one, but it's stop comparing
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yourself to others. Like I said, I'm not the only one who creates
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the kind of content that I create, and I bet you are not the
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only one who does the kind of
job you do, or creates the kind
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of content that you create, or
makes the kinds of decisions that you're faced
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with making, So stop worrying about
others. Don't worry about what kind of
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money they make, or the content
that they put out or the amount of
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subscribers they have. The reason I
say that is because I know that,
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when it comes down to it,
everyone has a different way of doing it,
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and so your way may work better
for others. Let me give you
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an example. When I was a
classroom teacher, there were other teachers who
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I knew students may have enjoyed more, they liked their classes more, they
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might have even created better connections with
However, I, when given the opportunity
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over to my students for them to
provide me with feedback, realize that one
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of the things they really appreciated most
about my class is the way I explain
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things to them, how easy it
was for me to help them learn new
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things. So while other classes may
have been more exciting or fun or engaging,
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and while other teachers may have been
more of their favorites, they really
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did value what I brought to the
table in my classroom in terms of the
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way I explained information. The way
I taught them seemed to resonate with them
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better than a lot of the other
teachers. So again, the second way
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of overcoming your impostor syndrome is to
understand that you cannot compare yourself to others.
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You are the only you that there
is in the world, and you
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need to embrace that in order to
continue to do what it is that you
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want to do and to stop getting
in your own way. The third way
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that I want to recommend to you
to help stop that impostor syndrome is to
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understand that you have a unique voice
and a unique story. As I mentioned
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in the second piece of advice,
other people are doing what you do.
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It's natural, it's okay, but
you have your own voice, not the
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tone of your voice or how you
sound, but the way you tell things,
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the way you tell your story.
Storytelling is extremely important, and because
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you are the only you, no
one else is going to be able to
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tell it like you. So while
there might be other competitors out there,
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other businesses, other content creators,
other educators, whatever it is you in
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your own way can only do what
it is that you want in your way.
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I've learned that over the years as
a podcaster and an author especially.
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There are so many books out there
think about how many books you can find
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or that you've read on self help
or business tips and business marketing. Not
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everyone can read every single book,
and not every book can ever become a
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best seller, but many books are
out there that have hundreds, if not
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thousands of readers because that book presents
the same or similar topics in a very
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different way. So understanding that you
have your way of doing things will go
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a long way in helping you get
rid of that imposter syndrome, because no
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two people will ever deliver the same
message the same way. And so therefore,
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if you want to go ahead with
something that you've been hesitant on at
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or that's really you know, weighing
on you and you're just having so much
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doubt about it, understand that people
may prefer to hear it from you or
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see it from you versus anyone else
who might have even done it before you.
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Number four and I know this is
going to sound simple, and it's
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not. And I'll explain why.
Is to build your confidence. And that
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sounds simple, but it's not.
In a way. Your confidence level when
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it comes to imposter syndrome goes way
down. But in order to build it
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up, I want you to think
about your experiences and your accomplishments. You've
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gotten here for a reason. And
I want to bring up a word that
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makes some people uncomfortable, and that
word is expert or expertise. You have
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a certain level of expertise that a
lot of other people don't. It depends,
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of course, on who you are, what you do, and how
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you do it, and I get
that, but building a level of confidence
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also means understanding your expertise. As
an educator and someone who's been in several
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leadership positions and coaching positions where I've
had to support other people, I've had
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to realize my expertise. And that's
not to say I go around bragging about
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my expertise all the time, but
sometimes it takes for me to step back
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and realize that I know just even
a little bit more than some other people
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know, and that's why I'm in
a position to coach them. That's not
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to say that I can't learn a
lot from them too, because there's something
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that they know more than I do
about. I want to give you an
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example. When I was first in
a full time instructional coaching role as an
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educator, I really struggled with having
an expertise because I taught one content area.
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My experience at that point was only
as an English or reading teacher,
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and then I was asked to coach
and support all teachers in all content areas.
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And I really struggled with imposter syndrome
because I thought, how am I
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going to help other teachers in content
areas that I don't know and I'm not
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comfortable with. But when I stepped
back and I thought to myself that I'm
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in this position because I know what
good teaching and what good instruction looks like,
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it really helped me understand that it
didn't matter what subject area it was.
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What mattered was that I had certain
skills or expertise that I can lend
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to other teachers, regardless of the
content area. And that's my advice for
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you too. Realize your expertise,
build your confidence, and really harness your
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knowledge and your accomplishments, and understand
that you have at least a little bit
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more to give and a little bit
more knowledge than most other people. Finally,
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the fifth way to overcome your imposter
syndrome is to build up your abundance
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mentality. Let me back up for
a second. The terms scarcity mentality versus
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abundance mentality have been discussed in literature
for years, especially when it came to
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the book The Seven Habits of Highly
Effective Peace People and one of my favorite
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books for leadership and for business,
Lead from the Heart. In these books,
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the terms scarcity versus abundance refer to
someone's mentality and their willingness to share
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with others or to open themselves up
to others. When I think about scarcity,
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I think about just, you know, not having anything, having nothing,
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something is scarce, it's almost non
existent, which really means in this
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case that your willingness to share with
others is kind of non existent. You
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keep it to yourself, versus having
an abundance mentality when you are overjoyed and
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overwhelmed with the thought of sharing what
you know with others. Going back to
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what I said a few minutes ago
about expertise, an abundance mentality means you
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want to give some of that expertise
to others. So really, to go
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from a scarcity mentality to an abundance
mentality kind of takes another type of mentality
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known as a growth mindset. In
order to grow yourself from getting from a
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scarcity mentality to an abundance mentality really
means that you need to overcome that imposter
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syndrome. Step back and say to
yourself, I, based on my experiences,
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my knowledge, my accomplishments, and
my expertise, I have a lot
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to offer and I want to be
able to give that to other people.
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So there you go. Those are
the ways that I think you can overcome
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imposter syndrome once you recognize that that's
what you're facing, either in your personal
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life or your professional life. I
would love to hear from you. This
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is not my way of just putting
an episode out into the world and forgetting
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all about it. I really would
love to know not only what your thoughts
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are around what I've shared here today, between what imposter syndrome is, how
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to recognize it, the different types
of it, and of course how to
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overcome it. But I would love
to know how does imposter syndrome affect you
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and have you or will you try
some of these methods to help overcome it.
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Please reach out to me either DM
me on social media at doctor underscore
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CRINAS or send me an email danat
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know how and in which ways This
episode on imposter syndrome resonated with you the
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most. Now, just because this
podcast was away for months doesn't mean that
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thanks once again for joining me here, and please know that we will be
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